Comments on: Warhammer fan film banned http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/ Blog from the filmmakers behind Iron Sky & Star Wreck Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:32:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mackeral of Styx http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-37655 Mackeral of Styx Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:54:21 +0000 http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/#comment-37655 They did, but apparently there was a mistake between the filmmakers and Workshop. ALSO: Star Wreck could have easily been stopped, just by the name. MAD Magazine here parodies many movies and games - and they profit off of it. There isn't a (C) next to every Goddamn movie there is. And when it seems that a small fan movie - a small one! Just a fucking tribute - is going to just make a little money, it blows all over the place. Ever seen "Batman: Dead End"? He didn't get sued over the use of Batman, the Predator and Xenomorphs, right? What about when Stormtroopers make appearances in public and are filmed online? Will they get sued? They did, but apparently there was a mistake between the filmmakers and Workshop.

ALSO: Star Wreck could have easily been stopped, just by the name. MAD Magazine here parodies many movies and games – and they profit off of it. There isn’t a (C) next to every Goddamn movie there is.

And when it seems that a small fan movie – a small one! Just a fucking tribute – is going to just make a little money, it blows all over the place. Ever seen “Batman: Dead End”? He didn’t get sued over the use of Batman, the Predator and Xenomorphs, right? What about when Stormtroopers make appearances in public and are filmed online? Will they get sued?

]]> By: Salmar80 http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-20991 Salmar80 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:57:45 +0000 http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/#comment-20991 Timo - Overall i support your quest, although your firebreathing tone was passionate, but off-putting. For GW to put a bullet in the head of an almost finished product was certainly dumb, and it WILL piss out the WH40K community. But there are several real significant differences between Damnatus and Star Wreck that would affect the interest of corporate lawyers: - Star Wreck doesn't claim to be a Star Trek movie. And it's a parody, with parodies facing less strict laws and treatment. Had Damnatus not claimed to be a WH40K movie, instead maybe being WH40K inspired movie, there would've likely been no harsh response. - Was Damnatus planned for free distribution? I could not find out on their website with a quick browsing. If they planned to make money with it, while placing it in WH40K, that would sure be a red flag for the copyright holders. Remember, even you consider copyrights to be important, although you wish they were treated differently. - True, some companies allow fan films. And i think that is in their best interests. But whether they allow them or not is their choice and right! That's why it's called copyright - whether you choose to enforce it or not is your call. Imagine if someone else made a Star Wreck movie, called it such, and tried to sell it for profit without consulting you - i'm sure you'd not be all that understanding... I just think the Damnatus makers and GW should've been smarter with this: Damnatus by not claiming to be a WH40K film or by asking for permission early, and GW by communicating with the filmmakers earlier to let them know what they allow and what not. That would've saved some heartache. Timo – Overall i support your quest, although your firebreathing tone was passionate, but off-putting. For GW to put a bullet in the head of an almost finished product was certainly dumb, and it WILL piss out the WH40K community.

But there are several real significant differences between Damnatus and Star Wreck that would affect the interest of corporate lawyers:

- Star Wreck doesn’t claim to be a Star Trek movie. And it’s a parody, with parodies facing less strict laws and treatment. Had Damnatus not claimed to be a WH40K movie, instead maybe being WH40K inspired movie, there would’ve likely been no harsh response.

- Was Damnatus planned for free distribution? I could not find out on their website with a quick browsing. If they planned to make money with it, while placing it in WH40K, that would sure be a red flag for the copyright holders. Remember, even you consider copyrights to be important, although you wish they were treated differently.

- True, some companies allow fan films. And i think that is in their best interests. But whether they allow them or not is their choice and right! That’s why it’s called copyright – whether you choose to enforce it or not is your call. Imagine if someone else made a Star Wreck movie, called it such, and tried to sell it for profit without consulting you – i’m sure you’d not be all that understanding…

I just think the Damnatus makers and GW should’ve been smarter with this: Damnatus by not claiming to be a WH40K film or by asking for permission early, and GW by communicating with the filmmakers earlier to let them know what they allow and what not. That would’ve saved some heartache.

]]> By: Antti Hukkanen http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-20984 Antti Hukkanen Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0000 http://blog.starwreck.com/2007/11/07/warhammer-fan-film-banned/#comment-20984 Well! This is, I just realised, the first time I've actually watched the Damnatus trailer, and it sure looks cool! Even if their guns aren't nearly bulky enough for WH40K and the acting leaves something to be desired, their wardrobe and props look pretty good, and especially the CGI. Kinda reminds me of Star Wreck... ^_^ I'm no Warhammer fan, but I would definitely watch this. What is it about this that GW feel threatened by? The fact that German amateurs produced something with a lot more feeling than official Warhammer products? Well! This is, I just realised, the first time I’ve actually watched the Damnatus trailer, and it sure looks cool! Even if their guns aren’t nearly bulky enough for WH40K and the acting leaves something to be desired, their wardrobe and props look pretty good, and especially the CGI. Kinda reminds me of Star Wreck… ^_^

I’m no Warhammer fan, but I would definitely watch this. What is it about this that GW feel threatened by? The fact that German amateurs produced something with a lot more feeling than official Warhammer products?

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