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		<title>By: cars</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-920573</link>
		<dc:creator>cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be fun to buy a new car! Driving a new car is such a great experience, 
and purchasing the car should be fun as well. A lot of people would rather skip the whole purchasing process.
Keep the stress to a minimum using these tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be fun to buy a new car! Driving a new car is such a great experience,<br />
and purchasing the car should be fun as well. A lot of people would rather skip the whole purchasing process.<br />
Keep the stress to a minimum using these tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Olrik</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-611434</link>
		<dc:creator>Olrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having finally and just watched “Iron Sky” I am compelled to record my reactions to this unique film.  First, it has achieved a significant cinematic achievement with a limited budget.  The special effects are impressive, if technically flawed (see below).  All of the individual actor performances are great.  It is a dark comedy drama, with campy and kitschy film history references.  I laughed along at various segments, as did my fellow viewing audience.  The story arc rivets one’s attention and is engaging, at least to a certain point beginning near the last quarter of the film.  
However, it is a flawed film both technically and based on the expectations of a significant segment of the online crowd support that had built momentum for this project over the past several years around the world.  A lot of these expectations were centered around how a fascist militaristic society on the Moon with a 1945 baseline of German weaponry – with a given significant edge of a revolutionary aerospace propulsion system – could evolve over the course of some seven decades along analog lines and how this capability would react with today’s terrestrial digital military systems in combat.
First of all, it should be recognized that the film’s central premise that Germany developed advanced aircraft of a disc/flying wing configuration during World War 2 is based upon a core of truth and is not some crazed nonsense.  Much of the details of these developments have been muddied over the decades by layers of misinformation and disinformation, but there is little doubt that revolutionary German aerospacecraft were under development by the end of the war and these developments were likely continued by the victorious powers after 1945.  For a highly readable fictionalized account of these achievements, based upon prodigious documented research, see W.A. Harbinson’s landmark novel “Genesis” and his follow-up Projekt Saucer series and a non-fiction treatment of the subject.
Now, the basic technical and military flaws of the film:
1.	German soldiers (Waffen SS) are once again portrayed as robotic bowling pins that can be knocked down in droves, while the reality is that during the war they outperformed the Western Allies with a combat effectiveness ratio of 2.5/1 or more and the Soviets at greater than 5/1.
2.	 The flying discs in the film were single stage to orbit hypersonic vehicles, something no nation on Earth, except perhaps the United States with a limited capacity with the supposed secret Aurora project, have achieved.  These vehicles would have an inherent fantastic acceleration capability and could not be shot down by vehicles such as the sluggish USAF A-10 Warthog - they would simple zip away and attack from a stand-off distance.  This is simple physics and cannot be argued away.
3.	The Moon Nazi’s technologies are portrayed as highly evolved electromechanical analog systems developed along independent lines from Earth’s increasing capacities in digital systems.  However, even with basic communications monitoring systems the Moon Nazis would have been aware of Earth’s developments and developed at least rudimentary countermeasures.
4.	The asteroid bombs shown being deployed by the “space Zeppelins” could devastate entire nations with an impact energy equivalent to millions of megatons of TNT directed to predetermined targets on Earth – this threat alone of hyper 9-11 consequences would result in widespread capitulation in today’s socially networked and interdependent world.
5.	Absolutely no nation on Earth today, or in four year’s time in 2018, have the type of deep space and military vehicle space capability suddenly demonstrated near the end of the film.  The US today is in fact dependent upon 1950s level Russian space technology to send astronauts to the International Space Station.  NASA’s budget has been devastated by the Obama administration and China is emerging as the world’s leading space power.
By ignoring these details, what could have been a true science fiction classic, will now be likely remembered along the lines of Dino De Laurentiis’ amusing but syrupy version of “Flash Gordon”...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having finally and just watched “Iron Sky” I am compelled to record my reactions to this unique film.  First, it has achieved a significant cinematic achievement with a limited budget.  The special effects are impressive, if technically flawed (see below).  All of the individual actor performances are great.  It is a dark comedy drama, with campy and kitschy film history references.  I laughed along at various segments, as did my fellow viewing audience.  The story arc rivets one’s attention and is engaging, at least to a certain point beginning near the last quarter of the film.<br />
However, it is a flawed film both technically and based on the expectations of a significant segment of the online crowd support that had built momentum for this project over the past several years around the world.  A lot of these expectations were centered around how a fascist militaristic society on the Moon with a 1945 baseline of German weaponry – with a given significant edge of a revolutionary aerospace propulsion system – could evolve over the course of some seven decades along analog lines and how this capability would react with today’s terrestrial digital military systems in combat.<br />
First of all, it should be recognized that the film’s central premise that Germany developed advanced aircraft of a disc/flying wing configuration during World War 2 is based upon a core of truth and is not some crazed nonsense.  Much of the details of these developments have been muddied over the decades by layers of misinformation and disinformation, but there is little doubt that revolutionary German aerospacecraft were under development by the end of the war and these developments were likely continued by the victorious powers after 1945.  For a highly readable fictionalized account of these achievements, based upon prodigious documented research, see W.A. Harbinson’s landmark novel “Genesis” and his follow-up Projekt Saucer series and a non-fiction treatment of the subject.<br />
Now, the basic technical and military flaws of the film:<br />
1.	German soldiers (Waffen SS) are once again portrayed as robotic bowling pins that can be knocked down in droves, while the reality is that during the war they outperformed the Western Allies with a combat effectiveness ratio of 2.5/1 or more and the Soviets at greater than 5/1.<br />
2.	 The flying discs in the film were single stage to orbit hypersonic vehicles, something no nation on Earth, except perhaps the United States with a limited capacity with the supposed secret Aurora project, have achieved.  These vehicles would have an inherent fantastic acceleration capability and could not be shot down by vehicles such as the sluggish USAF A-10 Warthog &#8211; they would simple zip away and attack from a stand-off distance.  This is simple physics and cannot be argued away.<br />
3.	The Moon Nazi’s technologies are portrayed as highly evolved electromechanical analog systems developed along independent lines from Earth’s increasing capacities in digital systems.  However, even with basic communications monitoring systems the Moon Nazis would have been aware of Earth’s developments and developed at least rudimentary countermeasures.<br />
4.	The asteroid bombs shown being deployed by the “space Zeppelins” could devastate entire nations with an impact energy equivalent to millions of megatons of TNT directed to predetermined targets on Earth – this threat alone of hyper 9-11 consequences would result in widespread capitulation in today’s socially networked and interdependent world.<br />
5.	Absolutely no nation on Earth today, or in four year’s time in 2018, have the type of deep space and military vehicle space capability suddenly demonstrated near the end of the film.  The US today is in fact dependent upon 1950s level Russian space technology to send astronauts to the International Space Station.  NASA’s budget has been devastated by the Obama administration and China is emerging as the world’s leading space power.<br />
By ignoring these details, what could have been a true science fiction classic, will now be likely remembered along the lines of Dino De Laurentiis’ amusing but syrupy version of “Flash Gordon”&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Belkis Capo</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-607309</link>
		<dc:creator>Belkis Capo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your style is really unique in comparison to other folks I&#039;ve read stuff from. Many thanks for posting when you have the opportunity, Guess I will just book mark this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your style is really unique in comparison to other folks I&#8217;ve read stuff from. Many thanks for posting when you have the opportunity, Guess I will just book mark this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Matteo P.</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-586098</link>
		<dc:creator>Matteo P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timo et al.: I didn&#039;t read IKAH, but it sounds awfully like the (current) last XKCD strip ( http://xkcd.com/1063/ ) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timo et al.: I didn&#8217;t read IKAH, but it sounds awfully like the (current) last XKCD strip ( <a href="http://xkcd.com/1063/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/1063/</a> ) ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Aroddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aroddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already don&#039;t like the idea.

Every time travel movie involving changing the past was bullshit. It is bullshit per definition.

And while Iron Sky was awesome, you shouldn&#039;t limit yourself to be a one-trick pony.

Let go of the Hitler shit and create something original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already don&#8217;t like the idea.</p>
<p>Every time travel movie involving changing the past was bullshit. It is bullshit per definition.</p>
<p>And while Iron Sky was awesome, you shouldn&#8217;t limit yourself to be a one-trick pony.</p>
<p>Let go of the Hitler shit and create something original.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarmo Puskala</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-581388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarmo Puskala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 11:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@J. The end was written with this story in mind. But somehow it happened that we already started thinking sequel ideas when writing it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@J. The end was written with this story in mind. But somehow it happened that we already started thinking sequel ideas when writing it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-581177</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 05:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Timo. Would love to be involved in the prequel. You&#039;ve already used my image for Dr Stober in the comic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timo. Would love to be involved in the prequel. You&#8217;ve already used my image for Dr Stober in the comic.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.starwreck.com/2012/05/28/next-were-going-hunting-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-581009</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How bout Commies from Mars?? the red planet!!! or Jews in space, defenders of the hebrew race......wait that one been done before!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout Commies from Mars?? the red planet!!! or Jews in space, defenders of the hebrew race&#8230;&#8230;wait that one been done before!!</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timo:
Glad to hear that about IKAH. A &#039;&#039;British&#039;&#039; action comedy based on a Norwegian comic with a Finnish director makes it worth seeing anyway!

SPOILER!!!!!
Was the ending of Iron Sky written with a sequel in mind? To me it&#039;s rather a kind of metaphor or dark joke (as in: See what happens when you&#039;ve got selfish, greedy and irresponsible leaders) than a prelude to another story in the world of Iron Sky.
But I&#039;m confident that you&#039;ve a good idea that makes sense (for as far as that&#039;s possible with this subject :P). 
Will you start writing the actual script anytime soon or are your first gonna look for some development money to hire a writer etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timo:<br />
Glad to hear that about IKAH. A &#8221;British&#8221; action comedy based on a Norwegian comic with a Finnish director makes it worth seeing anyway!</p>
<p>SPOILER!!!!!<br />
Was the ending of Iron Sky written with a sequel in mind? To me it&#8217;s rather a kind of metaphor or dark joke (as in: See what happens when you&#8217;ve got selfish, greedy and irresponsible leaders) than a prelude to another story in the world of Iron Sky.<br />
But I&#8217;m confident that you&#8217;ve a good idea that makes sense (for as far as that&#8217;s possible with this subject :P).<br />
Will you start writing the actual script anytime soon or are your first gonna look for some development money to hire a writer etc?</p>
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		<title>By: R. Hollatz</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Hollatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 00:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I killed Adolf Hitler, could be
a good story, but only if it does not change
the time line, or it would be only in be
Inglourious Basterds from (north)-europe.

Why not think of a 13 ship of the nazi&#039;s which
went to mars or even jupiter moon europe, here
they build a regime like in metropolis, and perhaps let
the machine go wild, or let them help
earth now after mankind has nearly killed itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I killed Adolf Hitler, could be<br />
a good story, but only if it does not change<br />
the time line, or it would be only in be<br />
Inglourious Basterds from (north)-europe.</p>
<p>Why not think of a 13 ship of the nazi&#8217;s which<br />
went to mars or even jupiter moon europe, here<br />
they build a regime like in metropolis, and perhaps let<br />
the machine go wild, or let them help<br />
earth now after mankind has nearly killed itself.</p>
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